Meeting Notes: North Island-South East Regional Recreational Forum, Saturday 4 November 2006

Open Meeting

Meeting chair, Paul Creswell (MFish) opened the meeting at 9.30 am and welcomed members.

Attendees

Paul Creswell (Chair)

Edward Beetham (Wairarapa Sports Fishing Club)

Wayne Bicknell (Hawkes Bay Sports Fishing Club)

Jenny Hills (Mahia Boating Club)

Alain Jorion (Gisborne/Tatapouri Sports Fishing Club)

Colin Murray (Hawkes Bay Sports Fishing Club)

James Parahi (Pania Surfcasting Club)

Hilton Webb (Gisborne/Tatapouri Sports Fishing Club)

George Zander (Ngawi Sport Fishing Club)

Simon Mills (Gisborne/Tatapouri Sports Fishing Club)

Meeting Introduction

Paul stated the main focus of the meeting was the Shared-Fisheries Public Discussion Document. The meeting would enable forum members to initially discuss the document before meeting with a representative from MFish’s Shared-Fisheries Project Team later in the day.

The first part of the meeting would be used to follow up on several action items arising from the last forum meeting.

Corresp.

Incoming Correspondence:

  • Article from Alain on rock lobster telson clipping for inclusion into the minutes of the last forum meeting.
  • E-mails from forum members concerning nominations to select a representative to attend the upcoming New Zealand Recreational Fishing Council Shared-Fisheries workshop

Outgoing Correspondence:

  • MFish October 2006 Update Newsletter
  • Minutes of the last forum meeting including a copy of The Bite
  • E-mail seeking nominations to select a forum representative to attend the upcoming New Zealand Recreational Fishing Council Shared-Fisheries workshop
  • E-mail regarding notification of today’s agenda
  • The notice of today’s meeting and agenda – included a copy of the Shared-Fisheries Public Discussion Document

Minutes of last meeting

Paul briefly summarised the minutes of the last forum meeting held on 19 August 2006.

James noted that he wished for the minutes to record that a 27 cm (not 25 cm as stated in the minutes) minimum legal size (MLS) would align with the Pania Surfcasting Club’s voluntary 500 g minimum weight for red gurnard. The minutes now record this correction.

Forum members agreed the minutes provide a true and accurate recording of the 19 August 2006 meeting (moved Alain /seconded Edward)

Colin noted the minutes of several other recreational fishing forums were available from the MFish’s website.

Action: 1) MFish to post meeting minutes on MFish website at www.fish.govt.nz

Regional updates

Members provided written updates on recreational fishing in their local areas.

Regional issues:

Recreational regulations review decisions

Paul outlined the Minister of Fisheries’ recent decisions on the review of several recreational fishing proposals. These proposals were raised by the New Zealand Recreational Fishing Council. Paul noted the forum discussed each proposal at the last meeting and their position on the various proposals were included as part of MFish’s final advice to the Minister. He noted the Minister’s decisions were consistent with the forum’s views.

Paul highlighted that decisions will not become effective until at least April 2007.

Paul summarised the Minister’s decisions as follows:

Change to recreational scallop season

Minister has agreed to amend the timing of the recreational scallop fishery between North Cape and Cape Runaway between 1 Sept and 31 March. All other scallop remain unchanged.

Simon requested more information about the timing of the change to the scallop season.

Note: The change to the North Cape and Cape Runaway recreational scallop season will commence on 1 September 2007

Size limits for red gurnard, blue cod, and trumpeter

Minister has agreed to set a national 25 cm MLS for red gurnard and 35 cm MLS from trumpeter.

Minister has agreed to reduce the MLS from 33 cm to 30 cm for the northern North Island blue cod (BCO 1) fishery. All other blue cod fisheries remain unchanged.

Amendment to regulation 19A of the amateur fishing regulations

Minister has agreed to correct the offences regime that applies under r 19A.

Recreational issues related to taking bag limits

Minister has confirmed that undersize fish will not count towards the amateur daily bag limit if released immediately.

Minister has agreed that fish at, or above, the MLS do not count against the amateur daily bag limit if the fish are released to the sea immediately and are likely to survive. This will also allow fishers to release fish caught for research purposes (ie, tag and release programmes) without being counted against the daily bag limit.

Rock lobster telson clipping

Alain provided the forum with an update on NZRFC’s proposal to require all non-commercial fishers to telson clip rock lobster. He noted there was good local support for this initiative including the CRA 3 User Group.

Edward noted the Wairarapa Sports fishing Club was supportive of this proposal and club members had already began to telson clip their rock lobster catches. He noted that clipping the middle telson fan would be problematic for packhorse lobster given the MLS applies to tail ‘length’ (ie, the distance between the rear of the calcified bar on the first segment to the tip of the middle fan). He suggested it would be more appropriate to require fishers to clip the outer corner fan (see below).

Rock Lobster - Outer Fan.


Motion:

The NI-SE Recreational Forum supports the clipping of the corner telson fan instead of the central fan

Moved: Edward Beetham/Motion passed unanimously

Alain noted the NZRFC was keen for local CRA 3 fishers to progress the initiative as it would assist to address a big local compliance problem. He noted the NZRFC was currently considering the available options on how best to progress their proposal next year.

Paul outlined MFish’s concerns when rock lobster telson clipping was first discussed several years ago as a way of reducing illegal fishing. He acknowledged the efforts by Alain to progress telson clipping within the local fishery.

Scampi bycatch issues

Paul noted that Colin had asked for information at the last meeting on the size range of scampi within commercial catches. He noted the industry do record scampi catches to specific size gradings, but does not make this information available to MFish. Therefore, he was unable to provide Colin with the requested information. Paul stated he is able to provide Colin with scampi size distribution information from catches taken by research vessels. This would provide an indication on the size distribution of scampi within the SCI 2 fishery.

Recreational fishing catch forms

Wayne and Colin advised the forum that the Hawkes Bay Sports Fishing Club had begun to record catch information from their members during club competitions. This information records the number of fishers that enter the competition and the number of fish caught (including species of fish, and number of retained and released fish). This information would be collated over time to provide a picture of the state of local fisheries.

Regional issue 2:

Shared Fisheries Public Discussion Document

The forum was reminded that the Minister of Fisheries had recently released a public discussion document to consider how best to manage shared fisheries amongst the customary, commercial and recreational sectors. This document provides a real opportunity for all stakeholders to have a big say in how shared fisheries are to be managed in the future.

It was agreed at past forum meetings to dedicate today’s meeting to consider the public discussion document. The first part of the meeting would enable members to discuss the proposals amongst themselves to identify common areas where further clarification or information was required. The second part would enable the forum to meet with a representative from the Shared-Fisheries project team to discuss the proposals in more depth.

Paul encouraged members to discuss the document with their representative clubs after the meeting and to provide MFish with a submission. The deadline for submissions is 28 February 2007.

Initial discussions

The Forum considered the document. Members identified two main issues that affect recreational access to locally shared fisheries. These were:

  • Overcatch of TACCs and the failure of the existing catch balance regime to constrain catches within TACC levels
  • Significant recreational catches from charter boats and the need to balance these catches against quota.

Several members congratulated the Shared-Fisheries project team on drafting the document.

Members agreed the next forum meeting would be used to develop a joint ‘forum’ submission. The role of MFish at this meeting would be to provide assistance only in ‘documenting’ the discussion.

Members agreed to send Colin to the upcoming NZRFC workshop to discuss the Shared-Fisheries project on behalf of the forum. Alain noted that he would also attend the workshop as a NZRFC delegate.

Action: 2) Forum to prepare a joint submission on the Shared-Fisheries document at the next meeting.

Meeting with Shared-Fisheries project team

Kim Drummond joined the meeting to discuss the Shared-Fisheries Public Discussion Document. Kim provided a presentation on each of the document’s seven themes. These were:

  • Getting better information on catch and value
  • Setting the TAC
  • Priorities for allocating the TAC
  • Setting and adjusting amateur and commercial allocations
  • Local area management
  • Redress following adjustments in allocations or access
  • Representing amateur fishers’ interests

Members discussed at length the various proposals under each of the above themes.

General business

12-month review of NI-SE Regional Recreational forum

Members agreed to review how well the forum was working at the next meeting.

Action: 3) Next meeting to review the NI-SE Regional Recreational Forum.

Next meeting

The following agenda items are to be carried to the next forum meeting:

  • Shared-Fisheries project – develop a joint submission
  • Review of the NI-SE Regional Recreational Forum

Closing

Meeting closed at 3pm.


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